A totally different experience...

[gina87]

I dont know if people had have this happen to them but wow this was totally something different.

Well i was in the cafe at sfu and i had two girls approach me. They wanted to talk about religion on a spiritual level. Thinking it had something to do with their research i agreed. We discussed our perspective on God and if i believed he existed. I had typical answers.
Ofcourse he does and everyone just has different names for him and different ways of worshipping him. God is one. Well that went on and they started talking about christianity. See i didnt want to be rude so i analyzed their point of views about their religion and agreed. As i had read the bile because of my literature course i understood them. Then they suddenly started going that Jesus Christ proclaimed he bridged the gap between god and us "sinful humans" and i was like ok i guess. They said no other religion does that. I kept quiet because i was like well its their point of view and their religion so yea its true i understand where they are coming from. Anyhow this went on for like an hour.
They then asked me how would i describe my relationship with god. I said that ofcourse i am not a totally religious person and my life is more self based. They asked me if i would pray using the word Jesus Christ in my prayers. I was like yes ofcouse God is same for Me. let me my gurus or jesus Christ its just another name for God. Anyhow, they then wanted me to say this prayer. I agreed and said it. Honestly, I did feel better but then they were like congrats you have opened your heart to Jesus Christ.
Thats where i lost it.... all along all they wanted to prove was Christianity is the ultimate religion. I mean i was trying to be nice and all listen to them. So now she was like i dont want to use the word convert. Man i was jus sitting there dumbfounded. I really couldnt believe these two gurls... but anyhow...I was like listen i know your view i understand you. I am praying to God be it i call him Jesus Christ or Buddha or Nanak dev ji. He is one to me.
I cant believe people.God I basically expierenced the Tyra Banks Scene with these two girls. They seemed Normal But they were actually calling everyone sinful etc. I couldnt believe it. But this was a learning lesson for me.
I dont know if you guyz found tis a bit awkward but if u had to go through that you would know i guess cuz i am still shocked from this experience. It was unbelievable.....

[Inder]

wow...that is wierd.

I don't know how you didnt laugh, I would have started laughing after they said, "i don't like the word convert but..."

[Gopi]

"I was like listen i know your view i understand you. I am praying to God be it i call him Jesus Christ or Buddha or Nanak dev ji. He is one to me."

Guru Nanak Dev Ji is not the same as Jesus. We do not consider Guru Nanak as our god.

[Pally]

But references in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to "God" are stated as "Nanak" aren't they? I think that's what she meant. Am I right?

I honestly think that is quite absurd. I don't mind learning about other religions, I actually LOVE it. It opens my brain to another level, but for someone to come and try to "convert" me? That is so wrong.

(This is strictly my personal opinion) but anyone that tries to go around and "convert" people is not a true believer of that religion and is committing a huge sin. No one religion is greater than the other, and no one religion should be treated greater than the other. For someone to tell me their religion is better or their religion is the most "pure" is committing huge sins on themselves, regardless of who it is. You should have told those girls to go and read the Bible, like REALLY read it and stop believing they are "perfect Christians". No where in the Bible does it say "convert" people to Christianity, that is your purpose in life.

Wow, that made me angrier than I thought I was!!! :S Apologies for anything I may have said wrong and any mistakes. That was not my intent and I whole-heartedly apologize.

Pally

[Raminder]

I had a weird experience last year. I was walking home trying to get home to watch 24 before it ended. It was about 10:30pm and I noticed this big guy walking towards me, I continued to walk. While walking past each other we kinda brushed shoulders. He then said, "hey!" I got freaked out because here was a big huge black person I thought I was gonna get mugged or worse. He then was like..."You know Jesus Christ?" Totally the opposite of what I was expecting.

He then went on for like 20 minutes trying to tell me why Jesus Christ was better than everyone else, and that Jesus could make our sins go away and no other religion had the answer. I tried to tell him that I didn't believe that other religions were incorrect or that they didn't have the answers. I tried to tell him there are different ways to worship God, but he didn't budge.

I kinda gave up on trying to explain my point of view to him but he didn't believe me (he also smelled which was another reason why I gave up) He gave me a paper and told me to go to an event, and then pointed to my really thick astrophysics book (thinking it was some sort of Holy Book) and told me to pray to Jesus.

[gina87]

"Guru Nanak Dev Ji is not the same as Jesus. We do not consider Guru Nanak as our god."
--I am not saying Guru Nanak Dev Ji is God.
When you think of God what comes to Mind Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Thats how i was stating it.

[Mez]

Not to sound rude or give off that impression of myself, but if that had happened to me, I would have put those two girls back in their place and would have argued to no end. Yes, arguing is not the answer to life, but I hate people with hidden motives/agendas. I would totally just take whatever they said to me, and turned it back on them..however, thats just me, haha and I do respect you for keeping your cool, as I know I would not have been able to

[Pally]

Yeah S.Bains, I am with you. I would have not been able to keep my cool, so Gina87 I must say: You held yourself well and I'm kind of glad it was you and not me (for the fact that I would've talked those people to death and made them feel well guilty)

Pally

[hkiran]

hahahahah...........that reminds me of the missionaries that come to your house and give u books on christianity!!

And i also agree that we dont think of Guru Nanak as our god,more a messenger of god!!

[beantk]

I think the reason christians go around trying to convert people is because they are insecure within themselves.

I am not trying to shoot down christianity but.........
the bible was not written by Jesus himself but was written by his disciples.
the bible has been retranslated into different versions about 100+ times.
all christians have to do is accept Jesus into their lives and they go to heaven for ever.


I thikn people should be in a religion because that religion allows them to be the best person they can become, and because their relationship with God is the strongest in that religion.

That is why I love sikhi. IT allows me to be the best person I can be. And my relationship with God is the strongest. And sikhs actually haev a goal in life: to meet God before they die so they can be exempt from this cycle of life and death. Its as simple as that.

Going to heaven is not just as easy as "accepting Jesus into your hearts".

I know it really seems like I dislike christians but the converter type just annoy the heck out of me.

[sharon.k™]

beantk said:

I think the reason christians go around trying to convert people is because they are insecure within themselves.

I know it really seems like I dislike christians but the converter type just annoy the heck out of me.

I don't know about this...

As a Sikh, it is also our duty to lead others around us to the path of Naam. To become a baptised Sikh... to give yourself to the True Guru. I think the 'converter type' Christians are doing the same sort of thing, but some just get carried away when they make comments like "all others will go to hell" and that we're following the 'wrong path'... those sorts of ppl exist in all religions. And in my opinion, ppl that make comments such as these aren't really following their religions properly... as all religions preach equality.

Whether you say Allah, God, Waheguru, Jesus, Moses, Ram... that shouldn't matter. He is what he is. And that, he shall forever remain.

[arjanb]

yeah i know how u feel the other day some dude saw me with a meditation book and asked me if i was atheist i told him i beleived in god and made the mistake of saying there is only one god and one truth and he started saying no thats not true. I agreed to disagree and he kept going on giving me facts about christianity... I don't remember the whole story but he started telling me things like he didn't beleive in evolution and adam and eve sinned to make us live where we are... I was thinkin of askin him if adam and eve were white too but i didn't wanna be rude. the sad part of that was he's a science student taking the same biology course i am. Then he started telling me about the return of jesus and the judgement day and how everything was gonna end and a new universe was going to be created and he kept making this retarted face after every dumb comment he made. and to top it all off he gave me this book to read about christianity i won't go over the whole thing but in it there was a picture with god on the top and a gap and humans on the bottom then on the next page the same picture but with a cross saying christ connecting them. After i finished reading his book he asked me if i felt better and then i asked him if i was supposed to. lol after that i learned talking about religion in public withs ome people brings too much of a head ache. i'm not disrespecting the guys beleifs or anything but it was hard not to laugh at what he was saying...